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Critics of this documentary, as to it’s observations and conclusions, get essentially the following arguments:
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1. That the Jesus family would be buried in Nazareth, not Talpiot;
2. That the Jesus family couldn’t have afforded a tomb like the Talpiot tomb;
3. That the “Jesus son of Joseph” ossuary is not inscribed “Yeshua” (Jesus) at all;
4. That the “Mariamne” ossuary didn’t hold the remains of Mary Magdalene, but of two other women.
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I contain the first three of these allegations against the documentary’s premise don’t carry worthy water. The fourth argument actually supports the conclusion that this is the actual thing. My comments on these points:
1. Talpiot is the good set for Jesus’ family tomb- Per Luke, 2:3-4, the family’s Proper area was Bethlehem, not Nazareth. The fact that Joseph and the pregnant Mary could not win the census in Nazareth but had to grasp it in Bethlehem indicates that Bethlehem was their DOMICILIUM under Roman Law. That basically means that they had no procedure to reside in Nazareth permanently. Therefore it would have made microscopic sense for them to have a family tomb in Nazareth, that they wouldn’t be able to frequently visit at a later stage in their lives. They would have wanted a family tomb halt to Bethlehem and Jerusalem, easily accessible also to future generations of the family. The fact is indeed that Mary and her children moved to Jerusalem around 30 AD.
The old-fashioned name of Jesus in Hebrew, as reflected also in the Talmud, is “Yeshu Hanotzri.” This appellation stemms from “Netzer” (Shoot or Branch) . It alludes clearly to Isaiah 11:1, indicating the Royal birth of Jesus, to substantiate his claim for Jewish messianship. Not to exhibit the region he comes from ( to explain that Jesus supposedly originates from Nazareth, he would have been called “Yeshua Minatzeret.” But he wasn’t called so.) In any event Jesus was born in Bethlehem, even though he grew up in Nazareth. Even when a person was called by a residence in Herbew/Aramaic at that time, that appellation would refer to his space of birth, not to where he happens to live at a sure moment in his life. Thus if Jesus were to be called by a station, he would logically be called “Jesus of Bethlehem.”
There’s actually no evidence in Jewish sources, such as the Aged Testament or the Mishna and Talmud, that a situation called “Nazareth” even existed in or before the first century. I’m not disputing the evidence per the NT, that there was indeed a situation called Nazareth. But to the best of my knowledge, there’s no mention of Nazareth at all in any conventional writings outside the Modern Testament. So the region existed, but nobody knew about it. Therefore there was no reason to call Jesus “of Nazareth.” Either in life or on an ossuary. He was called “Jesus the Branch” (of David) in Hebrew/Aramaic. It sounds almost the same as “Jesus of Nazareth” when pronounced in Hebrew/Aramaic, and therefore would easily confuse any person whose mother tongue isn’t Hebrew/Aramaic. But it shouldn’t confuse native Hebrew/Aramaic speakers.
The line of argumentation detracting this discovery around the supposed Nazareth origin of Jesus’ family may therefore be based on a very shaky foundation.
2. Talpiot is located about 2.5 miles North of Bethlehem. Jesus’ family, of Davidic descent according to the Modern Testament, could have held the burial cave there even before it moved to Nazareth. Davidic birth was absolutely the most exalted in Judaism, always. The suggestion that any person of Davidic descent could be of the lowest social echelon, that couldn’t fund or come by funding for a burial cave, doesn’t effect noteworthy sense, if any. There’s great evidence to the contrary, e.g. 1. Jesus had some very wealthy active supporters like Joseph of Arimatea and Nicodemus (known as Nakdimon ben Gorion in post biblical Jewish sources-one of the richest Jews in Judea) ; 2. Josephus A.J.,XX, 9:1. Effect the prominence of James brother of Jesus.
3. The inscription on the Jesus ossuary does say “Yeshua bar Yehosef” (“Jesus son of Joseph”) to my discover. All letters but one are quite clearly there. The only letter which is somewhat more difficult to discern at first blush is the second letter- “Shin”. That’s because it’s written in a somewhat unique beget (in a regular Shin there are three teeth in the fork, pointing upwards. Here there are two teeth, pointing sideways to the honest.) But that particular irregularity appears also on other ossuaries- notably numbers 9 (this one has two “Shin”- one with three teeth pointing to the factual, and one with TWO teeth pointing to the accurate. Exactly like the subject inscription) and 121 in the Rahmani catalogue, which both feature also a “Yeshua.” All this is NOT difficult for a Hebrew speaking person to identify.
4. Mr. Huston on 3/13/07 made the following comment to my post regarding Jacobovici’s book:
“The inscription, Pfann said, is made up of two names inscribed by two different hands: the first, “Mariame,”’ was inscribed in a formal Greek script, and later, when the bones of another woman were added to the box, another scribe using a different cursive script added the words “kai Mara,”’ meaning “and Mara.”’ Mara is a different create of the name Martha.
According to Pfann’s reading, the ossuary did not house the bones of “Mary the teacher,”’ but rather of two women, “Mary and Martha.’”
Here’s my reply to him:
“If the Mariamne ossuary indeed housed the bones of Mary and Martha, these are two sisters of NT fame. Another hit. One of them could have been married to “Jesus son of Joseph.” -Whether or not she was Mary Magdalene (Maybe the Mary who ointed Jesus feet and then dried them with her hair- very intimate scene.) The other sister would than also automatically belong in the family. It level-headed fits. Actually it increases the statistical odds that this is the dependable thing quite substantially.”
This is a very tantalizing possibility indeed, fitting perfectly with John 12:3. Some posters on an internet group where I participate actually suggested once that similar anointing was allotment of pre-wedding ritual of a Davidic King, per distinct passages in the Song of Songs. Reminds me of the reaction to this get of a BBC reporter in 1996- It seems like all pieces of a puzzle coming together.
Two other matters raised by the documentaray recount to the meaning of the inscription “Mara” on one of the ossuaries, and to a proposition that the “James brother of Jesus” ossuary originated from the same Talpiot tomb. My comments:
5. Any Jew in the first century would probably know instinctively that “Mara” is a very exalted appellation indeed. The Unimaginative Sea Scrolls in at least two places that I saw have the expression “Mara Alma”- the accurate equivalent of “Adon Olam” in Hebrew (“Master of the World”.) That is one of the most accepted substitute names for “Yahwe”, the ineffable name of God, in Judaism, to this day. Jews inform this substitute name many times every day, in prayers.
6. Oded Golan is on trial in Israel at this time for alleged forgery of the “James brother of Jesus” ossuary. If Mr. Golan believes or knows that the James ossuary is authentic, his defense lawyer should and could collect a court order for comparative DNA tests of the James remains with the Jesus remains. The court will most probably grant such an order, because it’s material to his defense in a felony case. If this test shows these are siblings, that would constitute sufficient “reasonable doubt” to acquit Golan. (And of course enhance the statistical odds that the Talpiot tomb is the accurate thing.) If it doesn’t present they’re siblings, the result would be inadmissible as evidence. Therefore there’s only an upside on this for Defense.
Incidentally, I have that the Documentary’s anecdote about the “Jesus” and other bones having supposedly been buried together in a well-liked grave has to be taken with a grain of salt. It appears to contradict distinct burial rules under Jewish Law. In a different context, a poster elsewhere on the procure pointed out to me a second century ruling regarding accepted burials. Seems to me that popular burials of unrelated adults are prohibited, where the bones are found separately. Therefore the remains in the ossuaries would be buried separately.
BOTTOM LINE- Ask yourself inversely a hypothetical question- If the Talpiot tomb hadn’t yet been found, how would Jesus’ family tomb have looked, which ossuaries would it have contained, to when would it have been dated and where would it have been located. Even if, like me, you’re not formally educated specifically in any field related to this subject, anyone with general education and accepted sense who’s inviting enough could educate himself to earn a perfectly pleasurable concept. I would have belief of a tomb unbiased like the tomb we’re discussing. It fits perfectly with what I’d have expected Jesus’ family tomb to be. Suitable station, factual period, suitable names. (Even some essential evidence supporting the same expectation that this documentary omits.)
That doesn’t mean that the Talpiot tomb is the actual thing beyond reasonable doubt, only that if you had a jury of completely unprejudiced people, either plot, and that jury were presented with all material evidence, pro and con, it could quite logically have found that this is the sincere thing by preponderance of the evidence.
Itamar Bernstein
The Bone Box
I deem myself quite open-minded when it comes to these type of religious historical documentaries. In fact, I am usually thrilled at the thought that someone discovered archaeological evidence of a religious person. Thus, it’s irregular for this documentary to really turn me off.
I’m mainly annoyed by the narration and structure of the documentary. I deem if it wasn’t for that, I might have liked it more. Two things bothered me in particular: one was the blueprint the documentary presented its arguments and the other was the omnipresence of the director, Simcha Jacobovici.
The documentary does a very misleading thing. Whenever it encounters a potential section of evidence that doesn’t fit into their argument, they procure a arrangement of suggesting that it could potentially fit, and then thereafter refer to it as if they’ve proven their point. For example, they bring up the quandary of “Mariamne” – who could she be? Her mention in the Acts of Philip in reference to Mary Magdalene was cited as evidence that this could mean the trusty Mary Magdalene (never for once questioning the historical validity of the Acts of Philip) . Then they display you a dramatic reconstruction of Mary Magdalene as the wife of Jesus, and from that point on, the documentary acts as if they’ve proven without a doubt that Mariamne is Mary Magdalene. They continue doing that with all the pieces of evidence that don’t quite fit, without nothing that these evidence are all linked, so if even one of them is unfounded, then the rest of their case falls apart.
Consider this line of thinking: You want to gain out who stole your bicycle. You explore a footprint that belongs to a shoe that maybe Billy wore, and maybe he was in your neighborhood even though he lives an hour away, and maybe his bicycle broke down which is why he needed yours, and maybe he liked your bicycle among all the others in the neighborhood. Well, if any one of these “maybe’s” are groundless, your case falls apart.
I know they try to do the statistical argument, but what does 1 in 60,000 mean? It sounds like a vast possibility but they never to bother elaborating on that.
The other thing, and perhaps the most annoying thing, about the documentary is Simcha Jacobovici, who comes across as biased as Michael Moore (whom, incidentally, I actually like) . His bias is so certain that it puts into inquire the entire construction of the project, including how the film was edited, who and what did they leave out, and so on.
As I said, I would really like to maintain the arguments in this documentary, and some of it is quite convincing, but the flawed line of thinking and the bias of the director makes it very suspect. There was some righteous production values, but other than that, it was a poorly conceived project on a potentially gripping rep.
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